Is Bard Really a Good Healer?

    Sup guys. :)


    So... are you sure Bard Healer is good? I mean... look..


    1. The Bard Healer is the only one who has to cast. The others are instant and cannot be interrupted (most of).


    2. The other classes have healing in an area that leaves the ground, anyone who is there will be healed.

    The Bard has a Heal that only heals 5 players, and must be in the same group, to heal outside of his group (in this

    case a 10p Raid) he needs to equip a glyph and even so, he only heals 5.


    3. It's the only Healer that doesn't have Summon that helps healing.


    4. The other classes also have Shield, so it's not just the Bard.


    5. The main status of the Bard is Sprint/Haste, while the others are Healing so... In the end game the others who, numerically have

    a lower Healing, will reach the Bard's "power".


    And the last but not the less: Bard Healer has the most mediocre skill animations of all the other classes and is kinda disappointing. :(


    Please, tell me your opinion, change my mind. ?(

    1. He also got some instand healings.

    2. The AoE heals of the summoner for example got a huge CD and the Okkultist doesnt got a AoE Heal. Everybody in the field sacrafieses some health for the player with the least amount of health.

    3. The Snake doesnt heal much, either the fairy. There are plenty of videos with the DMG Meter where you can see healing done too. These are nice to have yea but not nessary ( you can also for example change the snake from healing to something else, so not every snake heals)

    4. The bard can iceblock some one. No other class can do it. The shields arnt that high and the person needs to be full HP for the shield: Its just a thing at the beginning of the fight.

    5. The bard needs haste for the damage espect. You can also rune your gear. For thing point you really need to look at the healing effect numbers.

    6. Bard > everything. The bard is strong in many ways, but weak in others. Like every other healer / class. Play what you like. There is no meta.

    7. The bard got a really huge class spell. ( oven of life with the & HP buff. Look at this: No other class can do it. If you dont have a bard in the group ( bard is the less played class according to the beta stats) you miss 6% HP Buff of all the group members. (Thats much more HP that most of the healers heal in a short fight, you know? Flat HP > Healing)

    I'll link you all the class tutorials ma friend.


    Bard:


    Summoner:


    reaper:


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    We don't want to change your mind, you must make up your own mind. Each healer has a different playstyle, summoner wlll suit some, Bard wlll suit others and the Reaper also. Bard is like the "classic" healer from many mmos, it's easy to play well and easy to learn both DPS and healing. Summoner is the HoT healer, Reaper is great too but if you want to play both its specs you wlll have to like melee, also its aoe heals are purple and a lot of the bosses have purple skills, so until people are used to it they wlll run OUT of your healing :p

    I agree with everyone else here. The Bard is a good and solid healer. You will find a lot of arguments against other healer classes as well and you will find a lot of arguments against the bard, too. But the bard also has some great tools that no other class has. I don't know from where you got that Bard needs Haste/Sprint as his primary attribute. Especially with better gear, your mastery also creates bigger shields which can go up to ridiculous amounts as soon as you leave the entry gear level.


    btw. contrary to what was said above: Bard shields work also on low HP people. You have a strong single target shield with multiple charges, a very strong AoE raidwide shield and on top of that the ability to convert overhealing into shields when Harmony is up (I guess thats what GodPecha meant up there). In my opinion, no other class has more emergency heals/abilities which can save people from certain death than the bard.


    And most of those skills are instant as well. And on top that, you also have two abilities that enable you to move while casting, so you can also still pump heals when its important.


    Don't try to find the perfect healer that does everything good. It does not exist. Play the healer that suits your playstyle, get to know its weaknesses and strengths. Don't search for the better class, try to be the better player.

    Yeah, I've seen all these videos, including the Fox and raids. (mostly Summoner is the top Healer). And I think these videos are a little late, the version we're going to play has different talents and glyphs. (They said we're going to play with a newer balance patch, only the content is old.)

    About the oven of life, is a class spell, so, don't need to be a Healer spec to buff everyone.


    I don't know about runes, do you have any tutorial videos?

    That's just what I'm doing. I made this post to know the opinion of other players and better understand the class/spec. I WILL play as Bard Healer, but I see so many cons that I end up in doubt.
    I think this game was really made to have 2 different healers in raid. And I'm used to being a solo healer and even in some 10p raids. (in other games ofc)

    Having two different healers in a raid makes much sense, yes. For example two Bards don't make a lot of sense, especially because the buff from the oven does not stack and you are missing out on the other utilities from other classes. But it not something you would need to enforce either.

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    I don't know from where you got that Bard needs Haste/Sprint as his primary attribute.

    It does.


    Just throwing that out there. 72% is the final breakpoint.


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    with better gear, your mastery also creates bigger shields which can go up to ridiculous amounts as soon as you leave the entry gear level.

    Bard only has 2 skills that provide a direct shield. The single target shield is 40 or 45s cd, the group shield is 1 minute+ cd. You do not stat for shields when the cds are that long. They are emergency buttons, not your main healing tools.


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    In my opinion, no other class has more emergency heals/abilities which can save people from certain death than the bard.

    Reaper says ...."hold my beer"

    Toadwart

    It might be the optimal way to play by a small percentage, but especially on Release content that just does not matter. Not at all. And I am quite sure that the haste meta will not decide your success or failure in later content. Yes, it might be optimal by the numbers but you as a player have to play at a certain level to make full use of meta builds. Otherwise, at least in this game, numbers-wise sub par builds become viable as well. So point taken, it might be optimal numbers wise but I still digress that it is the only way to play a good bard. I would fully agree that there is only one way to play a class if we would be talking about other established MMOs out there, but on this one, meta hunting is not needed.


    Bard actually has not only those two. Harmony makes your basic heals also generate shields. On top of that, the Mastery does not only increase your shields but your overall healing as well. So no, you do not stat just for the shields but for overall as well. And besides, I'd rather stat for stronger emergency heals than for shorter overall CDs and faster healing. The stronger emergencies and overall bigger heals have a far bigger value in tight situations to me than being able to pump more basic heals in a shorter time frame. But well, its both playable.


    On a final note: Reaper has the fake heal and "spirit link". And yeah, a few other spells that could be considered something of an emergency spell. But in essence, when Reaper used those two there are no comparable tools left for him. Yes, the fake heal is strong on itself but the Reaper has by far not the sheer number of emergency tools the Bard has. Not saying that reaper is bad tho, its also a good healing class.

    Quote from Uhrwerk

    Bard actually has not only those two. Harmony makes your basic heals also generate shields.

    I believe I said the bard has only 2 direct shields and thats true. Referencing Harmony, a long cd (over 1 minute) only give shielding when you overheal, which you shouldnt be doing anyway, in reality is only minimizing the negative effects of over healing by converting your wasted mana spent on overheals to a temporary shield. Its even less of something that will come into play than the two direct shields are.


    Reaper has the fake group heal, spirit link totem, ability to pull player out of 1 shot mechanics, self rez to continue healing when both of the other healers will stay dead on the floor, and the ability to drop aggro after the tank dies and gets rezzed. It has the best game changing cooldowns of any of the three healers and the best instant "save targets ass" cds to boot.

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    Reaper has the fake group heal, spirit link totem, ability to pull player out of 1 shot mechanics, self rez to continue healing when both of the other healers will stay dead on the floor, and the ability to drop aggro after the tank dies and gets rezzed. It has the best game changing cooldowns of any of the three healers and the best instant "save targets ass" cds to boot.


    Bard has the ability to ice block other players, making them immune to any sort of damage for the duration while also healing them up for a set amount and also a cheat death mechanic that triggers on fatal damage, so the pull skill and the self rez are not really something that makes a difference between Bard or Reaper.


    Why are you going so hard into defensive mode here? Nobody said that Reaper is worse than a Bard. Nobody said that Bard is worse than Reaper either. They both have their pros and cons. Its kinda baffling how many people insist that there is only one true way to play a game nowadays. Especially when the content is not demanding top 1% gameplay, there is much more leeway for different builds, especially when you are not exactly speedrunning.

    Honestly. I will learn healing for a bard because I am maining bard dps and would rather replace a dps if we don't have enough healers in our guild party.


    In this game it only makes sense to go into the world in dps mode and switch to healing mode when you go into a dungeon. So the biggest question should be which class do you like to play the most? Heal with that.


    Eventually I will learn reaper and summoner and how to heal with them because being flexible is awesome but if I'm not feeling the class over all then I'm not going to push myself to run dungeons with it. Do what makes you happy. In the end you will perform better.

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