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This is 100% Off-topic, but i was instructed by phandor or whatever to post off topic discussions in other threads. So here it is:

I never had a need to block anyone before, but I know I'll need it for the release. If this truly does make the other player invisible/non-targetable then this would avoid any annoying rampage addicts, if someone kills you, you can place them on the list and go back to what you're doing. And the criminal can go look elsewhere for more victims.

The game is what dictates you are criminals by sending you to prison for the usage of this model. It's not my title i placed on rampage users but the games.

It's silly to assume I haven't tested out the mode (I have) just because I don't mention it in a post.

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I am pretty sure it does not work like that. It will stop people from texting you or maybe sending mails, but you still can become a target. The reason why you won't be free of getting attacked is simply because you could abuse this option in PvP specific zones. There are dailies to be done there and those are risk vs. reward based.

My advice would be to get your PvP gear, even if you don't like it. And wear it in zones where the risk is high of getting attacked. The first thing I've learned in EvE is that safe does not exist. You deal with it by paying attention to your surroundings and being ready to fight, just in case someone tries. Just enjoy the game and ignore the gankers. And if you gonna die, die with your boots on.

PvP will be in this game, no matter how many times you try to change it. It won't change. It is up to you to deal with it. Options enough though... walk out and check in 30 minutes, go with a group of players or simply fight back. Your choice to make.

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Uh---no. How about instead, the Evil Criminal Rampage users (game's labels not mine) go play eve online instead.

How in the world did you get I wanted all pvp deleted? What post have I ever mentioned this?

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Like I said, its your choice to make on how you wish to deal with it. Just dropped some suggestions, that's all. You do you, Boo.

And if you allow a ganker to ruin your day, that is also a choice you make.

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You missed out, stand there and do nothing, to spoil their fun, come back to them to be killed again and again until they have enough evil QI to go to prison Go mend your gear whilst laughing all the way to doing what you were doing. I understand there is a cheat to get out of prison, I hope they use it and get banned....I shall personally be watching

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Thank you for not answering the question .... and so you want to attract more people...

Phaendar said earlier on Discord, that the demo download will be shown underneath the beta client tomorrow.....under the events section.

I see no "we"

I'd think it was a Beta exclusive as we also got an avatar with it.

I remember a time when PKers were viewed as the scum of the earth in mmorpgs, even by other PvPers and where the penalty was at least 3 days (real time) in jail. From some of their comments here it seems it's now perfectly natural to want to kill pve equipped players who aren't interested in forced PvP, is a guaranteed pathetic win which means absolutely nothing regarding how good/bad they are at pvp, will not give them any rewards, will not get gear, or on any leaderboards and will put them in prison. The only upside I can see for them is that they can open their filthy little mouths and trash you without getting reported. In the discord channels it was even said that PvPers don't care about outfits, so to be honest they aren't even a source of income for GF, but more than likely a loss if people get fed up with their antics and leave.

Do I want to get rid of PKing? No...it's good to see who the rubbish are, but I would like either the option of opting out so I don't actually have to interact with the dross, or make the penalty far more severe.

Which moisturiser do you use?...asking for a not so handsome friend!

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It's not even a Gameforge thing, it's Steam Fest so in effect nothing to do with GF.

huh?? how is this not even related to Gameforge, when Gamerforge is paying steam to sell solo on that platform.... logic.....

Because if it was Gameforge who decided on the Steam Fest demo, there would be a demo on Gameforge? Logic.

Have to agree here with all the above comments. Every single mmorpg I've played since the internet first arrived have had their toxic parts of the community. I do one thing first when playing these games....turn off world chat. It makes for a calmer and more friendly experience. In other games I've always run guilds who are for the "more mature" gamers who more than likely have family and jobs as their primary concern, that way you get to play in a friendly tolerant atmosphere. This time around I have joined a guild with that same outlook, we will do stuff together, probably wipe loads of times and have great fun doing it

One word of advice, be very careful of some of the guilds advertising on the Discord guild channel. They sound wonderfully relaxed and "harassment free" "mature" etc. but in reality are....toxic. My friend and I know, we fell for it and joined one and left within 10 minutes :p Rather, find people you like to play with in game, you will come across them as you play, and either join their guilds (alliances in this game) or make a regular group with them. A game is what YOU make it

I've never seen the need to "keep up" with hardcore players, why? because I'll never be playing with them, so what does it matter? I like to enjoy and appreciate the game and the story and the lore, all of which the devs have worked hard to create. If it takes me longer to get to the stage where "there is nothing to do", that's fine by me...I got value for my money

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PvE players get so much content and then take it for granted. PvP players get to do the one thing they enjoy, have a list of punishments for doing the thing and then they get flamed by people for doing that thing they already get punished for.

Stopped reading after I saw this.

There's a huge, HUGE, difference between PvE and PvP here: I don't ruin anybody's gameplay by questing or going to some instances, gathering resorces or going on a treasure hunt.

If others come and PK just "for fun" while I'm doing my business, then yes, they are ruining my gameplay and of course they have to be punished.

What people still dont get is that the majority of us don't want to remove PvP entirely from a game; we want it to be it separated using arenas, instances, or faction maps. What we dont want is to be griefed 24/7 just because someone finds "fun" to kill someone virtually for no reason when the other person doesn't want to engage on PvP.

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There's one good thing about this year, if the PKers get too annoying there are loads more games we can go to. Leave them to it if they want to kill the people who actually spend money on the game

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May you please guide me to those loads more nice Xianxia mmorpg (solo alternatives)? QAQ so I might be able to give them a try~

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Did I say anything about Xianxia? Nope....I meant mmorpgs...I don't play SOLO because it's Xianxia, I play it because I like the game, if it turns out that PKers spoil it I'll move to another mmorpg of which there are many coming out.

It's not even a Gameforge thing, it's Steam Fest so in effect nothing to do with GF.

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PvE players get so much content and then take it for granted. PvP players get to do the one thing they enjoy, have a list of punishments for doing the thing and then they get flamed by people for doing that thing they already get punished for.

Stopped reading after I saw this.

There's a huge, HUGE, difference between PvE and PvP here: I don't ruin anybody's gameplay by questing or going to some instances, gathering resorces or going on a treasure hunt.

If others come and PK just "for fun" while I'm doing my business, then yes, they are ruining my gameplay and of course they have to be punished.

What people still dont get is that the majority of us don't want to remove PvP entirely from a game; we want it to be it separated using arenas, instances, or faction maps. What we dont want is to be griefed 24/7 just because someone finds "fun" to kill someone virtually for no reason when the other person doesn't want to engage on PvP.

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There's one good thing about this year, if the PKers get too annoying there are loads more games we can go to. Leave them to it if they want to kill the people who actually spend money on the game

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Can we play this demo through just the Gameforge launcher, or do we need to use Steam?

It's a Steam Fest thing, so no you can only play it on Steam. A good opportunity to make and save your character presets if you forgot during beta, and sort out your UI and other settings.

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Oh but there is plenty PvP without having to go to Jail, did you know? :3

Yesh I know, not as fun

Not as fun because its true PvP?

Who died and made you king of the world mate? True PvP isn't something you get to decide, and if we were going to talk about "True PvP" it's goddamn sure not gonna be Arena PvP with a 30s countdown and all your skills are ready and shit, that's just Arena.

Holy moly.. "true PvP" my phat juicy ass

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How was anyone else supposes to know your definition of "true pvp" was to round up a couple of old grannies to fight. Or maybe I'm still wrong, and your definition is to attack 7-year-olds. Or maybe you only go after people with 20 hp points left in their hp bar. If that's still too tough, then maybe ask them to leave their keyboard before you even start the attack?

While I agree that the true definition is...somewhat subjective. What exactly is your definition? You forgot to explain which is why I'm left wondering.

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Yesh I know, not as fun

Not as fun because its true PvP?

Who died and made you king of the world mate? True PvP isn't something you get to decide, and if we were going to talk about "True PvP" it's goddamn sure not gonna be Arena PvP with a 30s countdown and all your skills are ready and shit, that's just Arena.

Holy moly.. "true PvP" my phat juicy ass

How was anyone else supposes to know your definition of "true pvp" was to round up a couple of old grannies to fight. Or maybe I'm still wrong, and your definition is to attack 7-year-olds. Or maybe you only go after people with 20 hp points left in their hp bar. If that's still too tough, then maybe ask them to leave their keyboard before you even start the attack?

While I agree that the true definition is...somewhat subjective. What exactly is your definition? You forgot to explain which is why I'm left wondering.

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Obviously it's subjective, that's what I meant with the king of the world part and that's also why I didn't bother explaining what true PvP is for me, which is basically all that you stated lol.. 20hp, 7 year olds, hell I'd even attack a player fresh off the tutorial.. I'm not sure about the old grannies part, I'm not even sure I understand that.. The thing about that is that either way, it's not because it's easier, it's just more fun

True pvp is player versus player in all forms, which other than arena and bigger 10vs10s or 15vs15s, also includes open world PVP (PK, faction wars), if you feel like it's way too hard to play a game where pvp is taken to where you chill and RP then go RP somewhere else mate

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Because it's a well known fact that PKers are appalling PvPers, and need to get their street cred and jollies from killing people in PvE gear, or someone whose health is low whilst killing a mob, or maybe even someone who is AFK. They will soon lose their street cred as people on the server make a list of the rejects. By the way there was a Chinese hack mentioned to get out of prison I hope you PvPers will report it as any responsible player would, so that it can get fixed.

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You sound more like you have a victim complex than being an actual victim with how strongly you have reacted to this issue. It seems to be very all or nothing in these threads over incredibly small issues that really are not going to affect 95% of players. You are creating a self fulfilling prophecy by being so anti PK that you are going to make people WANT to PK you. Then I am sure that will add validation to your ideas that this system is broken and unfair, when in reality it is working exactly as intended.

I see, and what are you basing this personal observation of yours on me off of? Where are you collecting the numbers and data from, so i can look at these charts myself? I'm not anti pk. I fully support the faction system. I'm 100% against Pk'ers attacking PVE players is all. How is it not still considered PK because the opponent is fighting back, or the opponent is ready for an attack? It's only considered PK if the victim is in PVE gear or not expecting it? Ridiculous.

Let those who are short on temper come kill me then. The virtual death of my avatar won't change anything or "make me shut up" if anything it'll make it a lot worse.

PK is for killing obnoxious people who are refusing to fight, people who are causing problems but refusing to actually accept responsibility for them, people who are skirting the lines of the rules and trying to ruin the game for others. It isn't about being short on temper.

If all you are going to do is say woe is me, this game is broken and people keep killing me, I don't want to make friends to help me or actually develop any pvp skills myself, devs please remove game features so the game can be the proper safe space that I want. All you are going to do is annoy the people around you and make them question why you are playing this game at all. And that is what will get you PKed.

Just play the game as it is intended and you will see that this PK mechanic will go heavily underutilized and the couple times it does get used might even encourage you to make new friends or develop interesting stories that MMO's are made to try to promote. Complain all the time about non-issues and you are going to get PKed. System works as intended. Keeping world chat clean.

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Caduryn's comment (I won't make another post for it) is just semantics and still really doesn't count as false advertising.

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I'm sorry, while i do agree with the possible social aspect that it can give. I can never accept the neanderthal-way of "Might makes right" approach.

I rather use words, and it's just silly to get "offended" enough to attack a person. Who am I to decide what's obnoxious and what isn't? If someone says something I don't like or agree with, there are a million other things I can do before I force them to shut up with rage-mode.

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I got a bit heated earlier so I will apologize for that, and I will say that I respect your opinion and your desire to see in-game conflicts handled in a more diplomatic way. However I really don't see it as winning an argument with might.

When you are dealing with trolls and griefers they are not going to listen to logic and they are not going to be diplomatic. They are like children, and while in an ideal world we could explain everything simply to every child who does things wrong and they just get it. That doesn't really happen, and so sometimes you just need to ground them or use your authority to make them know their behavior is bad, even if they can't understand why yet. Many people simply don't have the time or energy to always pick the diplomatic option in an MMO, we all have real lives outside of the game too and only 24 hours in a day.

PK isn't used as a tool of reasoning, it won't win you any arguments. It is used when trying to argue with a griefer is pointless and a waste of time that could easily be solved in 1 minute by just rampaging them. You won't teach them a lesson, but you will make them aware that the game is not going to be fun for them if they are going to commit to bad behavior, and hopefully those players will then decide to try actually playing the game or just leaving. Either is a win.

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You've hopefully never had nor will have children.

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The reddit poll is completely irrelevant since it does not even have the option that started this thread. How about you make it simple:

Do you want to have the option to opt out of being a target for Rampage (call it PK, PVP or tilling at windmills who cares) in SOLO?

1. yes

2. no

That is what people are asking, not for separate servers, removal of all PVP in the game etc.

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I just answered that in the above post, if you can opt out of PK then any open world fighting is just PvP because you are assumed opt in. The nature of PK is that you can't opt out. Its not a PK otherwise. So you are just asking for removal of the PK system.

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But according to your "figures", hardly anyone would turn it off? So what's your problem?

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I just got permission to disclose a handful of numbers

Is that you Mr Biden?

...aided and abetted by Diane Abbott?

I'd take a wild guess that we will get an announcement of some sort in 3 days....so Tuesday?

Hmm weird, I managed to bind the mouse skills to Q and W, then rebind my movement to the mouse keys. Or were you trying to put other skills on the mouse buttons?

If you look at the contents of the Collector's edition, they have two assassins holding weapons that look like fans. I wonder if there will be fan skins in game at some stage.