This thread is a circle-jerk between two factions that clearly don't see eye to eye. Name calling doesn't make your point any more valid and/or giving it more substance.
Also, herding up against someone who doesn't share your opinion, regardless of of their opinion being "right" or "wrong" is not okay. Period. This thread is in its essence the pot calling the kettle black.
It's a forum, it's not herding up. You put your views out there, expect them to be challenged, similarly to how we put our views out there, and they are being challenged. Especially when it's deemed to be assumed that the responses are nonsense from a player that assumingly doesn't understand what they are typing let alone what others are typing (the assumptions are based on countless responses that make no sense and don't add up, with contradictions left right and centre).
It's okay to have a debate, the name calling from my end is strictly there to expose contradictions and hypocrisy when he himself does it to others, it's not there to give it validation or more substance, no one said it was there for that anyway; it's how I like to justify things. If the responses are genuine and actually make sense, then they are replied to in whatever manner someone deems to reply to someone.
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1. You're free to be-leive whatever you want. lol
Yes I know, thank you for reminding me.
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2. It doesn't matter which method you use to avoid raging lunatics on a killing spree. Log out, safe zone. This point two is clearly just filler material to make the text longer.
What?
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3. Confusing, You call me inexperienced pvp (with zero evidence, just hunches), But how can i be inexperienced if i enjoy pvp? Why are there so many personal attacks on me rather than the subject of the topic?
You enjoy controlled PVP, you complain about uncontrolled PVP (a.k.a PKing). Again no one said you didn't enjoy PVP, you imply that you despise PKing probably due to a bad experience? No idea.
The subject of the topic has been addressed both before and during the "personal attacks", dont try to victimise yourself when you're also attacking people also. Nice try though.
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4. What if i (or the player who was pk'ed) Didn't consider the Pk'ers amusement to be worth losing the buff? No matter how cheap it was. What if i don't consider the "little" durability i lost to be worth the Pk'ers amusement? No matter what it was. What if i prioritized a mob battle over the Pk'ers amusement?
Then deal with it. That's the system in the game, the PK community are going to still PK players at their own wish and deal with the consequences. It's not difficult. Similar to what AdventureApe said, some players will choose to PK for different reasons, my reasons are relatively similar and if my friends or guild call me for back-up.
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5. So basically "Bend to us Pk'ers whims and shut up, if you don't like it, QUIT!" Of course there is going to be pushback against this spanish conquistadors approach in the modern-day. This is the same train of thought that will hold humanity back as a whole. Use words and brainpower to solve issues.
The same can be said for PVE focused players, "Bend to us PVE'ers whims and shut up, if you don't like it, QUIT!", I lost you at spanish and holding humanity. I don't see how they relate to a game that involves PVP.
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6. These are human players behind these avatars. Just because you (Not you specifically but the pk'er) decides to attack an unsuspecting player and possibly kill them doesn't mean their ideas or goals are worth more than the one who was preyed on. There would be no chess game if the Pk'er didn't bring the board and force me to play.
The point here is that things like this is going to happen, that was my view on who I deemed more important at the time, different people have different values. I'm not here to talk about morals, I'm here to talk about the PK system on the game, which is the overall topic of this thread, besides the PK event that will 100% happen on the last day of CBT2.
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It's you who doesn't understand. Not everyone enjoys being forced into that situation. The point of this thread was to say the punishments were too harsh. I say they should be stricter. You latched on my personal opinion and derailed it from there. It is a part of the game for now. But you could also say the same about the punishment system.
If it's too harsh? Part of the game. Don't like it? Discuss your opinions and ideas in a thread. You seriously didn't think everyone would agree with you right? Personally, I'm not worried about any of you pk'ers. I could probably win anyways since in this game, I'm free to pvp all i want without being locked up in prison for it. Therefore i have severely more experience versus someone who just runs around attacking Pve players. I'm speaking for those who you force to log out of the game and quit what they are doing because you just had to reach out and lay your hands on them. Those that forfeit their quest spots when they see you there, what makes your task more important?
and how can a peaceful person force their ideology onto anyone? that makes zero sense. if they forced it then they wouldn't be peaceful. also what would they be forcing? "Forcing you to let them continue doing their quest"?
Look, at this point from how you've responded to me and others in this thread, you again don't seem to understand what PKing is. If you're doing something so precious and someone jumps and PK's you out of no where, then of course its a situation no one wants to be in at the time, but it's a situation you're going to have to deal with at that time. The point of this thread is to say the punishments are quite harsh, you say they should be stricter by implying they should be banned, others say there should be an "abuse threshold of the Rampage system". I didn't derail the point, this has everything to do with the point, what are you even talking about?
No, obviously not everyone would agree with us. Many people are usually afraid of PVP and PKing and as I've mentioned consistently to you, it's okay to be afraid lmao, but you seem to always miss that part. The same way those players are wanting to have fun doing quests, PKers have fun by PKing. I rarely hear of cases where someone is PKed to the point they log out because they couldn't quest, especially in this game where they are heavily punished?
Using the same logic you presented onto me with the different "Warmode" reference you kept pulling out whilst mocking the PK community, it forces PKers to abide by casual PVE players ideology. It does make sense, just for some reason you forgot about your original idea, which is what makes no sense. And yes, they would basically be forcing them to let them do their quest, but people who are at max level don't exactly quest, I think you keep misinterpreting the state of PK at the moment, you can't kill low level players in this game as of right now.
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What I type are well-thought out heavenly descended lines of consideration for others. You're triggered that I don't support placing your hands on innocent players. And if you arent, Then we have literally No argument to be had. Because Attacking innocents is the Only thing I'm against and it will never change.
Heavenly descended lines of consideration for others? What.. are you even..? Do you have some sort of superiority complex or something?
Attacking any and everyone is what we're going to be doing on the LAST DAY OF CBT. We do have no argument as of right now. We've had an argument before in our many posts because of our disagreements to each others "Points". I don't know where you pulled that I am triggered, this is a debate, we're having a debate. I already warned you and anyone else that I'm one to type passive aggressively. Usually during debates, especially when people make false remarks, contradict themselves, and add onto misinformation.